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		<title>By: Holly</title>
		<link>http://theredbrickstore.com/uncategorized/rejection-letters/comment-page-1/#comment-1742</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 04:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>form rejection letters are fine--better than certain other options--provided they&#039;re neutral and polite.  the Iowa Review had these form rejections based on WC Williams poem &quot;this is just to say&quot; that went something like

This is just to say
we have rejected 
the poems you sent us

even though you liked them
we got some other poems we 
liked better 
far more juicy
far more sweet

Not surprisingly, people wrote back to express their outrage at being rejected with such glee.

The worst rejection I ever got was when someone took a magic marker and simply scrawled &quot;why?&quot; on the first page of a story and returned it to me.  I will never submit to that journal again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>form rejection letters are fine&#8211;better than certain other options&#8211;provided they&#8217;re neutral and polite.  the Iowa Review had these form rejections based on WC Williams poem &#8220;this is just to say&#8221; that went something like</p>
<p>This is just to say<br />
we have rejected<br />
the poems you sent us</p>
<p>even though you liked them<br />
we got some other poems we<br />
liked better<br />
far more juicy<br />
far more sweet</p>
<p>Not surprisingly, people wrote back to express their outrage at being rejected with such glee.</p>
<p>The worst rejection I ever got was when someone took a magic marker and simply scrawled &#8220;why?&#8221; on the first page of a story and returned it to me.  I will never submit to that journal again.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 05:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>writing rejection letters/emails gives me the willies.

as a writer, i expect to get form rejections.  but i haven&#039;t submitted many pieces in my life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>writing rejection letters/emails gives me the willies.</p>
<p>as a writer, i expect to get form rejections.  but i haven&#8217;t submitted many pieces in my life.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela Hallstrom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela Hallstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 13:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel like form rejections are fine in most cases.  Occasionally, though, if a piece shows a lot of promise but isn&#039;t quite there, I&#039;ll offer encouragement and perhaps let the writer know what he/she could do to improve.  But for those pieces that are obviously not ready?  Frankly, it would take too long to explain all the &quot;whys.&quot;  And I also think that a personalized rejection is an encouraging sign as a  writer, so I save them for those writers who seem to be on the cusp.  I&#039;ll also write a little note if it&#039;s somebody whose writing is strong, but whose work truly doesn&#039;t &quot;meet our needs&quot; for whatever reason, so that writer doesn&#039;t think the &quot;meet our needs&quot; line is just an empty excuse.
But I agree with you--writing rejection letters is one of my least favorite things to do as an editor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel like form rejections are fine in most cases.  Occasionally, though, if a piece shows a lot of promise but isn&#8217;t quite there, I&#8217;ll offer encouragement and perhaps let the writer know what he/she could do to improve.  But for those pieces that are obviously not ready?  Frankly, it would take too long to explain all the &#8220;whys.&#8221;  And I also think that a personalized rejection is an encouraging sign as a  writer, so I save them for those writers who seem to be on the cusp.  I&#8217;ll also write a little note if it&#8217;s somebody whose writing is strong, but whose work truly doesn&#8217;t &#8220;meet our needs&#8221; for whatever reason, so that writer doesn&#8217;t think the &#8220;meet our needs&#8221; line is just an empty excuse.<br />
But I agree with you&#8211;writing rejection letters is one of my least favorite things to do as an editor.</p>
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		<title>By: Wm Morris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wm Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 17:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think form rejections are fine. But I also think that when it comes to creative work in the very small field of Mormon letters, the more we can provide substantive feedback to each other, the better. 

Within reason, of course. About 25% of the reason Popcorn Popping ground to a halt was that we were trying to provide substantive, individualized feedback to every submission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think form rejections are fine. But I also think that when it comes to creative work in the very small field of Mormon letters, the more we can provide substantive feedback to each other, the better. </p>
<p>Within reason, of course. About 25% of the reason Popcorn Popping ground to a halt was that we were trying to provide substantive, individualized feedback to every submission.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 17:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to be articles editor for my Law Review. My job was sending out rejection letters.

I sent a form email. Our submissions were by email, and my rejections were by email. All I did was type in a different date, name and article title.

I didn&#039;t have time for anything else. We had a ton of submissions. Usually people were surprised I responded at all.

Which taught me the lesson, once again, that &quot;perfect&quot; is the enemy of &quot;good enough.&quot; If you bother to respond, you&#039;ll be ahead of expectations already.

If you are trying to be sensitive and provide constructive feedback, you&#039;re in the wrong job. You&#039;re not a friend, you&#039;re not a counselor, you&#039;re not a grammar teacher. If their sad about rejection, they can go cry on a friend&#039;s shoulder. Your sympathy doesn&#039;t add much to the equation. If their article sucks, they can either find someone to tell them so, or they can fail in life. It happens. People fail. Tough beans.

In fact, I would suggest that part of the reason your rejection letters are always late is probably because you are over-inflating what is supposed to go into one. You&#039;ve blown this process of writing rejections into something so demanding of your care and concern that your mind is subconsciously rebelling by procrastinating the task. 

The task, as you&#039;ve painted it, is unmanageable. Your mind knows this, and procrastination is its way of telling you so.

Save a sample rejection email to your email &quot;drafts&quot; folder and go spend time on other things that matter more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to be articles editor for my Law Review. My job was sending out rejection letters.</p>
<p>I sent a form email. Our submissions were by email, and my rejections were by email. All I did was type in a different date, name and article title.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t have time for anything else. We had a ton of submissions. Usually people were surprised I responded at all.</p>
<p>Which taught me the lesson, once again, that &#8220;perfect&#8221; is the enemy of &#8220;good enough.&#8221; If you bother to respond, you&#8217;ll be ahead of expectations already.</p>
<p>If you are trying to be sensitive and provide constructive feedback, you&#8217;re in the wrong job. You&#8217;re not a friend, you&#8217;re not a counselor, you&#8217;re not a grammar teacher. If their sad about rejection, they can go cry on a friend&#8217;s shoulder. Your sympathy doesn&#8217;t add much to the equation. If their article sucks, they can either find someone to tell them so, or they can fail in life. It happens. People fail. Tough beans.</p>
<p>In fact, I would suggest that part of the reason your rejection letters are always late is probably because you are over-inflating what is supposed to go into one. You&#8217;ve blown this process of writing rejections into something so demanding of your care and concern that your mind is subconsciously rebelling by procrastinating the task. </p>
<p>The task, as you&#8217;ve painted it, is unmanageable. Your mind knows this, and procrastination is its way of telling you so.</p>
<p>Save a sample rejection email to your email &#8220;drafts&#8221; folder and go spend time on other things that matter more.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 13:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That does sound easy, Ardis.  But I can&#039;t imagine ever needing to reject anything from you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That does sound easy, Ardis.  But I can&#8217;t imagine ever needing to reject anything from you.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 12:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to know whether something is accepted or rejected (but please don&#039;t use the word &quot;rejected&quot; the way the MHA committee did this year -- &quot;declined&quot; or &quot;turned down&quot; are as efficient and leave less cause for authorial complaint). 

Unless something would be accepted if specific mechanical changes were made (length, move footnotes to endnotes, whatever), I don&#039;t want editorial feedback, either. You can&#039;t trust editorial feedback even when it is sincerely offered, because too much useless flattery masquerading as editorial feedback has gone out to know what to trust and what to reject.

I especially don&#039;t want suggestions from anonymous peer reviewers. They review the article they wanted to read, not the one you submitted. Half of them give orders to make it longer, greener, and sweeter, and the other half give explicit directions to make it shorter, redder, and tarter. 

So I&#039;m an easy letter -- or I would be, if I submitted anything anywhere. Just give me thumbs up or thumbs down. And do it in a timely manner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to know whether something is accepted or rejected (but please don&#8217;t use the word &#8220;rejected&#8221; the way the MHA committee did this year &#8212; &#8220;declined&#8221; or &#8220;turned down&#8221; are as efficient and leave less cause for authorial complaint). </p>
<p>Unless something would be accepted if specific mechanical changes were made (length, move footnotes to endnotes, whatever), I don&#8217;t want editorial feedback, either. You can&#8217;t trust editorial feedback even when it is sincerely offered, because too much useless flattery masquerading as editorial feedback has gone out to know what to trust and what to reject.</p>
<p>I especially don&#8217;t want suggestions from anonymous peer reviewers. They review the article they wanted to read, not the one you submitted. Half of them give orders to make it longer, greener, and sweeter, and the other half give explicit directions to make it shorter, redder, and tarter. </p>
<p>So I&#8217;m an easy letter &#8212; or I would be, if I submitted anything anywhere. Just give me thumbs up or thumbs down. And do it in a timely manner.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 01:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BiV, I don&#039;t mind taking the time to write personal ones--it&#039;s really only that I hate thinking about how people will feel (or, more accurately, about how *I* would feel if I got the rejection).

Jacob--it&#039;s a little different for Dialogue because of the varied types of content and the peer review process.  It happens often that I have to evaluate an article about a topic where I really don&#039;t have sufficient expertise (hard to believe, I know!!), and then I&#039;m at the mercy of reviewers.  If the initial reviewers are sharply divided, I&#039;ll send it out to another referee or two, and that just takes a long time.  The things I know I&#039;m going to reject tend to get letters more quickly.

Also, I tend to send authors most or all of the reviewers&#039; comments (though I will occasionally pretty them up).  You&#039;d be surprised at how often people get really angry and want to tell me all about how unfair and stupid and wrong and mean the reviewer was--skin thickness seems to be a highly variable characteristic :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BiV, I don&#8217;t mind taking the time to write personal ones&#8211;it&#8217;s really only that I hate thinking about how people will feel (or, more accurately, about how *I* would feel if I got the rejection).</p>
<p>Jacob&#8211;it&#8217;s a little different for Dialogue because of the varied types of content and the peer review process.  It happens often that I have to evaluate an article about a topic where I really don&#8217;t have sufficient expertise (hard to believe, I know!!), and then I&#8217;m at the mercy of reviewers.  If the initial reviewers are sharply divided, I&#8217;ll send it out to another referee or two, and that just takes a long time.  The things I know I&#8217;m going to reject tend to get letters more quickly.</p>
<p>Also, I tend to send authors most or all of the reviewers&#8217; comments (though I will occasionally pretty them up).  You&#8217;d be surprised at how often people get really angry and want to tell me all about how unfair and stupid and wrong and mean the reviewer was&#8211;skin thickness seems to be a highly variable characteristic <img src='http://theredbrickstore.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jacob J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 01:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not a writer, but I did once submit a paper to Dialogue which ended up being published a few years ago.  So, my experience is limited, but I wanted to mention two things.  (1) I was sitting on pins and needles waiting to hear back about my submission and when the letter said I would hear back in two months and it actually took much longer it was, well, unpleasant.  If you are going to reject something, I say be quick about it. (2) I did a fairly major revision of my paper based on the initial feedback before it was accepted.  In my case I had three anonymous peer reviewers and one did not favor publication.  Due to an accident, that reviewer&#039;s inline MSWord comments were retained in an attachment that got back to me.  It was very helpful (despite being simultaneously frustrating) for me to see the unfiltered reaction of that reviewer and I made several significant edits because of his feedback.  I&#039;m glad someone screwed up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a writer, but I did once submit a paper to Dialogue which ended up being published a few years ago.  So, my experience is limited, but I wanted to mention two things.  (1) I was sitting on pins and needles waiting to hear back about my submission and when the letter said I would hear back in two months and it actually took much longer it was, well, unpleasant.  If you are going to reject something, I say be quick about it. (2) I did a fairly major revision of my paper based on the initial feedback before it was accepted.  In my case I had three anonymous peer reviewers and one did not favor publication.  Due to an accident, that reviewer&#8217;s inline MSWord comments were retained in an attachment that got back to me.  It was very helpful (despite being simultaneously frustrating) for me to see the unfiltered reaction of that reviewer and I made several significant edits because of his feedback.  I&#8217;m glad someone screwed up.</p>
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		<title>By: Bored in Vernal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bored in Vernal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 00:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with everyone above, and I love getting feedback on my submissions.  But Kris, if you are having such a hard time getting them out, you should just type up a short form letter to send.  You can always scribble a line or two at the end if you have time or inclination.  Less stress all around!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with everyone above, and I love getting feedback on my submissions.  But Kris, if you are having such a hard time getting them out, you should just type up a short form letter to send.  You can always scribble a line or two at the end if you have time or inclination.  Less stress all around!</p>
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