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		<title>Our Mission:  To Publish Poetry</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In which Darlene Young, Poetry Editor of Segullah, reveals the value of a poem about a boob job. 
 
Most people believe that they don’t enjoy poetry.   Perhaps they’ve been over-exposed to poetry that is inaccessible. Perhaps they can’t separate poetry from their high school or college experiences of being forced to write papers about poems that [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;"><em>In which Darlene Young, Poetry Editor of </em>Segullah<em>, reveals the value of a poem about a boob job. </em><span id="more-236"></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">Most people believe that they don’t enjoy poetry.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">   </span>Perhaps they’ve been over-exposed to poetry that is inaccessible. Perhaps they can’t separate poetry from their high school or college experiences of being forced to write papers about poems that other people say are good.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>Whatever it is, there are definitely some mental blocks out there when it comes to reading poetry. (Despite the number of people who WRITE it, which is the subject of another post I hope to write soon.) I see <em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Segullah</em> as being in a good position to broaden its readers’ exposure to poetry and show them that it can be enjoyable.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">Of course, this can’t happen if we don’t get enough quality submissions!<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>At <em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Segullah</em> we are hoping that with publicity and with our poetry contest we will gradually begin receiving more and more good stuff. And as poets realize there is a place for them to publish, they will be more willing to see themselves as poets and perhaps work harder.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">I can’t over-emphasize how important it is to a poet to know that there are places to publish.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>I myself didn’t start writing poetry as an adult until I discovered <em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Exponent II</em> and <em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Irreantum </em>as potential places to publish. So I have a definite sense of mission for <em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Segullah,</em> both in terms of creating an audience for poetry and providing a forum for poets.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">But I have some mixed feelings when it comes to setting standards of quality for <em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Segullah</em>.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>When I was first writing poetry, I wrote some stuff that was, well,<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>not really great. At that time, Harlow Clark was poetry editor at <em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Irreantum</em> and he accepted some of my (weak) stuff. He even wrote an article in <em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Irreantum </em>around that time<em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"> </em>called “Room to be Lousy” (which he insists wasn’t <em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">specifically </em>about me, but hey, I’m not stupid) in which he spoke of the need for a place for growing poets to publish even when they are not very good yet. I can’t argue with him—probably if I hadn’t seen that success early on, I would have given up.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">Which puts me in a difficult position as a poetry editor now. I want to foster the growth of new LDS poets. But if I publish lousy stuff, better poets, potential contributors, will read <em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Segullah</em> and think that it is not for them and so they won’t send me anything. I want to keep high standards so that we will receive high-quality submissions and so that the audience will learn what good poetry is. But I want to give “lousy” poets who show some potential a chance.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>When I don’t feel we have much really great stuff to put in an issue, how far should I lower our standards in order to fill pages and in order to give new poets a chance?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>Do you other editors struggle with this question?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">At <em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Segullah, </em>when we (the poetry board) are deciding what to publish and when we have enough decent submissions that we can be picky, here are the criteria that we use:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>Is it a quality piece?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>Does it speak to a woman’s experience?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>Does it speak to a Mormon’s experience?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>Even better:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>does it speak to a Mormon woman’s experience?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>Does it address our issue’s theme?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>Although we hope we haven’t published any <em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">bad</em> poetry, we sometimes publish poetry that is less technically skilled because its theme is pertinent to our mission, or because it fits the issue’s theme so well.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">For example, here’s a poem of mine that <em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Segullah</em> published a few years ago. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">Angels of Mercy</span></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">by Darlene Young</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-outline-level: 1;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-outline-level: 1;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">The Seventh Ward Relief Society</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">presidency argued long and soft</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">whether Janie Goodmansen deserved</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">to have the sisters bring her family meals.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">It seems that precedent was vague&#8211;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">no one was sure if &#8220;boob job&#8221; qualified</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">as a legitimate call for aid.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">Janie herself had never asked for help&#8211;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">a fault they found it harder to forgive</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">even than the vanity behind</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">the worldliness of D-cup ambition.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">But in the end charity did not fail.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-outline-level: 1;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">The sisters marched on in grim duty</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">each evening clutching covered casseroles</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">(for, after all, it wasn&#8217;t the children&#8217;s fault).</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">More than once, though, by some oversight</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">the dessert came out a little short, as if</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">by some consensus they all knew</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">that Janie&#8217;s husband, Jim, could do </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">without a piece of pie that night.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">Obviously, this is not a very technically accomplished poem. <em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">BUT</em> it addressed the Mormon woman’s experience <em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">and</em> it fit the issue theme (bodies) perfectly. We’re hoping that very skillful poets will not read this poem and decide that we do not prefer to publish technically accomplished poetry—and at the same time, we are hoping that people who think they do not like poetry (or can’t understand it) will read a poem like this and think, “Hey, that said something in a new way. That’s a poem, and I enjoyed it.”<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>Of course, we are often able to balance less-crafted poems like this one with other more-crafted poems within the same issue (but not always—we can dream, though, right?).</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">(And I do have to say here that I am not using terms like “crafted” and “technical skill” to mean “less accessible” and “requires a dictionary and a book of literary allusions in order to understand.” These terms are <em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">not</em> equivalent, and the mistaken belief that they are has caused many an unfortunate situation for people who might otherwise like to read or write poetry. But that’s another topic for another post.)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">How about you other editors?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>What is your submission pool like?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>Do you get enough quality submissions that you are able to pick poems that contribute to a certain flavor you wish to convey? Do you have a sense of mission? What do you hope for the future of poetry in your publication?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">And what about you readers? Do you enjoy the poetry you&#8217;ve found in independent LDS pubs? What do you want to see more (or less) of? </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;"> </span></p>
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		<title>What are dead trees good for?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 03:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kristine Haglund</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[At least once a week, some young whippersnapper (or a cranky elder statesman) prophesies the doom of all the ancient and venerable independent Mormon publications. I think they are wrong, and I will show you why.
A few days ago, we had a very interesting discussion based on a personal essay about one couple&#8217;s experience of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least once a week, some young whippersnapper (or a cranky elder statesman) prophesies the doom of all the ancient and venerable independent Mormon publications. I think they are wrong, and I will show you why.<span id="more-212"></span></p>
<p>A few days ago, we had a very interesting <a href="http://theredbrickstore.com/segullah/when-does-life-begin/">discussion</a> based on a personal essay about one couple&#8217;s experience of loss in fertility treatment.  We touched on some of the theological issues surrounding ensoulment, the politics of declaring when life begins, and some of the sociological difficulties around discussions of this topic.  All in about a couple thousand words.  There&#8217;s nothing wrong with that.  The discussion was mostly intelligent and constructive, there were useful insights shared.  Life is short, we want to communicate efficiently&#8211;for many purposes, the executive summary will suffice.</p>
<p>But not for one purpose, which may be the most important one.  God commands us to love with all our minds, as well as our hearts. <em>All</em> our minds.  To me, that sounds like work.  A lot of work, in fact, the kind of work that generates long, footnoted, carefully edited <a href="http://www.dialoguejournal.com/excerpts/39-1a.pdf">papers like this one</a>.  It&#8217;s true that we live in an age of multi-tasking, bullet-point lists, attention-grabbing graphics&#8211;we are all, whether we want to be or not, masters of the quick, the shallow, the superficial.  But our God is not a soundbite God, and he wants our entire, sustained attention.  Dead trees, footnotes, and the Chicago Manual of Style are good for learning to slow down and pay attention.</p>
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		<title>Brian Doyle Reflects on Editing</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Carter</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brian Doyle, the editor of Portland Magazine, reflects here on his 30 years as an editor for various venues. Very funny, very insightful, and it even has a Mormon in it!
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&#8220;Editing is hardly ever what the non-inky world thinks it is, which is copyediting, which is merely the very last and easiest piece [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian Doyle, the editor of <a href="http://www.up.edu/portlandmag/2008_spring/index.html">Portland Magazine</a>, reflects <a href="http://www.kenyonreview.org/issues/spring08/doyle.php.">here</a> on his 30 years as an editor for various venues. Very funny, very insightful, and it even has a Mormon in it!</p>
<p>A quick snippet:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Editing is hardly ever what the non-inky world thinks it is, which is copyediting, which is merely the very last and easiest piece of editing—rather like a crossword puzzle, something you can do near-naked and beer in hand. Real editing means staying in touch with lots of writers, and poking them on a fairly regular basis about what they are writing and reading and thinking and obsessing about and what they have always wanted to write but haven’t, and also it means sending brief friendly notes to lots of writers you have never worked with yet in hopes that you will, and also it means listening to lots and lots of people about lots and lots of ideas, some or all of which might wend their way into your pages, and it means being hip to the zeitgeist enough to mostly ignore it, and it means reading your brains out, and it means always having your antennae up for what you might excerpt or borrow or steal, and it means tinkering with pieces of writing to make them lean and taut and clear, and always having a small room open in the back of your head where you mix and match pieces to see if they have any zest or magnetism together, and it means developing a third eye for cool paintings and photographs and drawings and sculptures and carvings that might elevate your pages, and writing captions and credits and titles and subheads and contents pages, and negotiating with and calming the publisher, and fawning at the feet of the mailing manager, and wheedling assistants and associates, and paying essayists more than poets on principle, and soliciting letters to the editor, and avoiding conferences and seminars, and sending the printer excellent bottles of wine on every holiday, including Ramadan and Kwanzaa, just in case.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>We at The Red Brick Store would like to point out that we do not do crossword puzzles (or copyediting) with a beer in hand. We much prefer Perrier. Also, we send Martinellis to our printers.</p>
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